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#444 2nd Encointer Retroactive Proposal Jan-Jun 2024 (Waiving Salaries)

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Encointer

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Encointer

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(3.04K KSM)

23rd Aug '24

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Encointer requests retroactive funding for its expenses in Jan-Jun 2024

This updated proposal addresses the two primary reasons mentioned for the rejection of Referendum 420 with a very tight 49.5%.

The first concern was the assumption of duplicated spending by different ecosystem participants. The Encointer team attempted to clarify these allegations through comments, but the misunderstanding persisted throughout the decision period. To rectify this, a video together with Will from ParaNodes, the author of the Proposal for Top-Up Funding of Kusama System Parachain Collators (Ref 419), has been produced. This video explains the different proposals and confirms that no duplicated spending occurred.
The second concern was the perceived high treasury expenditure, given the current state of the treasury. To address this, the Encointer team is offering to officially waive 50% of the team members' salaries, reducing the total treasury request significantly.

The reduced amount of the proposed spend is CHF 49’350 ≃ 59’809 USD ≃ 3’036 KSM for 6mt operations

Full Proposal Document

Encointer is a common-good chain on Kusama laying the foundation of a more democratic and more inclusive web3. Its secure and decentralized sybil-resilience protocol enables local communities everywhere to generate their own, autonomous local currency, and use it to stimulate the local economy.

Main achievements in 2024 so far

Community development and continued growth of Nyota in Tanzania
Adoption of Encointer faucet
Prototype for democratic community governance (vote weight based on personhood confidence, not funds)
Decentralization of infrastructure

Also, some insights and learnings from 2 years Leu Zuerich community: brenzi's EthereumZuri.ch presentation

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Overall 100 % of users are feeling neutral. Here is your task: 1. What are some of the challenges that can arise when implementing an on-demand application in a distributed computing environment?

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CbNF...PvXn

26th Aug '24

As I mentioned in proposal 420, I consider the ecosystem should stablish some bounty or other body that could follow and review the common good/system chains. And monitor the system actions and expenditures actions. The idea of reducing the cost of salaries in order to be approved is strange to me. I believe that in addition to expenses, it should be reviewed if the milestone and objective for which it was created and granted funds from the community to the system chain is fulfilled.

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EQ8s...6RGF

4th Sep '24

@CbNFBz4eykqiGqwYTfzRcYZGDh8xhbwwy4QaeiS4ctEPvXn Thank you for your vote and votum.
We are already active in the setup of something like you mentioned. We think it is a great idea and our founder has started a discussion in the forum almost a year ago:

https://forum.polkadot.network/t/a-bounty-to-make-polkadot-sybil-resilient/4206

Since these processes take time, the ecosystem should support the potential recipients until such a bounty is set up.

Hw38...c75M

26th Aug '24

Voted Aye

Thx for the clarifications and improvements.

Dm4u...1Xkk

26th Aug '24

Guys let's be honest, this idea is not working. Stop spending Kusama's resources on this experiment. Find a sponsor/investor or create a business based on it. From 2020 you already got and spend around 2M Euro (in DOT and KSM) to this , amazing!

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EQ8s...6RGF

27th Aug '24

@Dm4uKxZJZHJbpZpfnYPiHnbgyHWKMU1s5h6X7kqjfYv1Xkk Thank you for your comment. I disagree with your assessment, that this idea is not working. For the 2nd time we are entering a growth phase of an Encointer community. This time in Tanzania:

H1qz...KUFs

27th Aug '24

The costs of this project are too high, and the performance is poor. For example, it only has about 1,480 followers on Twitter, and not many subscribers on YouTube. It’s hard to support.

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EQ8s...6RGF

27th Aug '24

@H1qzURXmYGLfwMsviLpMeN8S9zjAPmc1LBCSeQkCAieKUFs Thank you for your comment. The feedback of "costs are too high" was addressed by the team in this proposal. We waived 50% of our salaries.
Social Media followers are not a metric we use to measure success. Reputables per community or the velocity of the local currencies are.

DG8Q...5nFh

28th Aug '24

Hello, on behalf of the AIWeb3 DAO (the most vibrant Chinese community within the Dotsama ecosystem, with the mission to amplify the voice of the Chinese-speaking community and support Chinese content creators, ensuring it plays a pivotal role in shaping the future of Dotsama eco),

We sincerely invite you to join our Twitter Space which is held every Tuesday at 10 AM (UTC+8) on our official Twitter: https://x.com/aiweb3dao. Please join our Telegram group if you have any questions, English TG group: https://t.me/aiweb3dao_eng and Chinese TG group: https://t.me/aiweb3dao

Comments: we have discussed this proposal in the community, and some community members shared the concerns about the 2M spending vs the current outcome of the project, some members value the positive part of system chain but haven't got convinced about the cost, some members shared that the achievement of Encointer faucet and community building part is not impressive, we hopefully you can show up in the twitter space and elaborate more on the achievement part.

您好，我代表AIWeb3 DAO，这个波卡生态中最具活力的中文社区，旨在放大中文社区的声音，支持中文内容创作者，确保其在塑造波卡未来中发挥重要作用。我们特地邀请你们参加我们的Twitter空间是每周二上午10点（UTC+8），在我们的官方推特：https://x.com/aiweb3dao. 。如有任何问题，请加入我们的Telegram讨论：英文Telegram https://t.me/aiweb3dao_eng ，中文 TG group: https://t.me/aiweb3dao。

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EQ8s...6RGF

29th Aug '24

@DG8Q1VmFkmDwuKDN9ZqdB78W6BiXTX5Z33XzZNAykuB5nFh Thank you for your comment. Encointer had a lenghty discussion with you during decision period of the previous proposal that has the same contents:

https://kusama.polkassembly.io/referenda/420

You have Ayed the preivous proposal and we have agreed on scheduling a Twitter Space in Automn on a Saturday which is not middle of the night in CET zone.
Malik

FFWN...BfiX

1st Sep '24

Voted Aye

The financial effect encointer is bringig to marginalized community in Africa is really revolutionizing, the app development is really dynamic meeting the demands of the user, So yeah my full approval

FFWN...BfiX

1st Sep '24

Voted Aye

The financial inclusion encointer is bringing to African marginalized community is truly amazing, the app development is dynamic and simply interactive, suited to the need of even an uneducated African citizen, Ive been following up this protocol the tech and community development are highly demanding, what i excites me more is that most of the funds attained are spent with integrity and transparency within the ecosystem. You got my full Aye

EyXc...t3Xm

3rd Sep '24

Yesterday, the Encointer Network has onboarded an invulnerable collator run by the Nyota community in Tanzania. We are proud to feature one of the very few nodes on the African continent on Dotsama, run by an Encointer community in order to increase their autonomy by running their own infrastructure and thereby contributing to the decentralization of a system chain.

To learn more about our infrastructure strategy, please watch this video