Referenda #234
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Overall 11 % of users are feeling optimistic. Rich's efforts are greatly appreciated, with valuable contributions that sparked a controversial but important discussion. His perseverance in challenging norms is commendable, guiding future requests and treasury spending decisions. This highlights his intention behind seeking support for Rich as well.
Overall 44 % of users are feeling neutral. Referendum #234 aims to address the off-chain nature of proposal data and centralization issues in apps like Nova and Subsquare. It has been successful as Polkassembly will soon read system remarks for proposals, expanding this feature further. The referendum also discusses KPIs as concrete outcomes and considers compensating individuals like Rich who have contributed significantly to the ecosystem over the past year.
Overall 44 % of users are feeling against it. This proposal for a Kusama common good fund research project has been met with skepticism due to its high cost and perceived overpricing, as well as concerns about exploiting the treasury. Some participants also question whether highly redacted individuals should be compensated retroactively or if their work is truly valuable for understanding Polkadot on a high level.
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Rich has been providing highly nuanced insights on a daily basis in Kusama for the last year and I believe he deserves compensation for all of the work he has provided. His research is critical to understanding things on a high level and is constantly enlivening discussions on all fronts.
I will vote AYE because I am biased toward compensating highly loyal individuals, especially ones who ask for retroactive funding. However I think it is quite a big ask and I expect many to believe that it's too much. There's also the question on whether the Treasury should be paying a salary like this. Looking forward to seeing feedback from others!
Just to be clear you're asking for $125,000 based on 211 likes of your forum posts?
@37251a3367fd402f9933fe7b3 to be fair, he's hosted a number of crowdcasts as well.
FWIW, the way I understand this proposal is that he's asking for a W3F Researcher's salary for everything he's done in the ecosystem for the last 365 days. Take it as you will, I personally don't mind throwing him some cash.
KPIs links to an aggregate overview of the work to date, rather than a single defining metric. On their own, each of these metrics can gamed, but they do at least constitute concrete and targeted outcomes since a key objective of independent research is to challenge orthodoxy.
Referendum #234: Data availability, retroactive funding and on-chain invoices
@asteeber But this ask is referring to the analysis! He could come back to ask more money for the crowdcasts?!
Let's "throw" him some cash, but less!
Rich has been providing highly redacted insights on a daily basis in Kusama for the last year and I believe he deserves to be banned from all Polkadot discussions for all of the redacted redacted he has provided. His research is useless in understanding things on a high level and is constantly derailing discussions on all fronts.
I will vote NAY because I am biased towards not compensating highly redacted individuals, especially ones who ask for retroactive funding. I think it is quite a big ask and I expect many to believe that it's too much. There's also the question on whether the Treasury should be paying a salary like this. Looking forward to seeing and completely disregarding feedback from others!
@42a31bbb8dbe420ea2f827c78 It's nice to see a totally unoriginal comment, especially one that unapologetically admits to being completely disinterested in engaging in a discussion.
Anyone who calls for censoring an individual who has only ever earnestly participated in discussions is a deplorable human being. It's not wrong to be against this referendum or to share your opinion of Rich, but to say he should be removed from the ecosystem shows your incompetence in understanding democracy.
I have no code of ethics. I will Nay anyone, anywhere. Children, animals, old people. Doesn't matter. I just love Naying.
I echo Adam's comment. Rich's efforts are highly appreciated by myself as well. These are contributions that imo are valuable to the network.
That being said, being the first request of its kind, I would expect it to be controversial. I hope the discussion here will help us deal with requests of this nature in the future and guide our treasury spending as a whole. I would like to believe this to be the intention behind the request for Rich as well.
I applaud Rich's perseverance in questioning the status quo and driving discussions despite the headwind along the way.
Hello Team,
Please consider adding contextual information about what this referendum is about so that the community is aware and can vote accordingly.
Thank you.
Glad the community already discards such ideas.
Helping everyone understand what the proposal is about -
Date: 12 July 2023
Proposal to: Kusama common good fund
Summary: 12 months independent research and analysis
Term: 1st August 2022 â 31st July 2023
Type: Applied
Structure: Retroactive
Approval: Simple Majority
Detail: https://forum.polkadot.network/u/rich/activity
KPIs: https://forum.polkadot.network/u?order=likes_received&period=all
Comparable: Web3 foundation researcher salary
Cost: £100k
VAT: £20k
Total: £120k
Total USD: £130k
Price: $23.89 (2023-07-12 16:01:06 (+UTC), Block #18758035)
Total KSM: 5,441.461
Organisation: Decent Partners
Structure: Hybrid
UK LTD company #10153409
VAT number: 931912824
Project Partner(s) - Richard Welsh
Onchain: jXC7ghviUzVcVySg3eD8prB7C9m6VzK6cw2MTyMTDTUye5q
Offchain: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rfwelsh/
Conflicts of interest: none
Governance: 1p1v
Use of funds:
- Working capital
- Recoupable loans
- Decision deposits
- Voting Voting policy: Aye - directions Nay - domains Abstain - real or perceived conflict of interest Donations: FvrbaMus8iASyrQYkajQWDxsYvG5gb72PFPuvy8TvkFFVGn Patronage: patronage.shokunin.network/creators/FvrbaMus8iASyrQYkajQWDxsYvG5gb72PFPuvy8TvkFFVGn/?network=KUSAMA Contact: @lightbulbwelsh:decent.modular.im Website: https://decent.partners
Assuming that you have performed the role/work of a web3 foundation researcher is thinking so high of themselves and their work. Do we not realize that a foundation researcher dedicates their 100% bandwidth and works on mission statement/ clearly defined research ideas that lead to actual implementation(sometimes) or some concrete result for the community?
Lets stop exploiting the treasury.
On other note, it would be cool to have Polkassembly or Subsquare read data from on-chain remarks and show it on their UI.
On other note, it would be cool to have Polkassembly or Subsquare read data from on-chain remarks and show it on their UI.
From: Referendum #234: Data availability, retroactive funding and on-chain invoices
One of the aims of Referendum #234 is to raise awareness about the off-chain nature of proposal data and the downstream dependencies and centralisation created when apps such as Nova and Subsquare read title and description from Polkassembly, rather than directly from the chain state.
In this regard it has been successful, as Polkassembly will soon read system remarks and add this info to proposal descriptions - a first step that can be expanded further as detailed later in the post.
Voluntary work, writing blog posts about your favorite app (and investment, hence already benefiting you), that were read by a few people, and then you ask 10k GBP per month?! 😕
What should developing world inhabitants think about Kusama & Polkadot? That they are not for them?
Sorry but it's a Nay for me, way overpriced.
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