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WFC: Use Decentralized Voices Cohort #5 to drive the evolution of resilient on-chain political parties..

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4 months ago
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Context

  • Original Karam post
  • Daniel's response

TL;DR

Use Cohort 5 of Decentralized Voices to kickstart a new generation of emergent, resilient, on-chain political parties, enabled by the addition of Kreivo’s OpenGov-based infrastructure to the Kusama Asset Hub runtime through a new upgrade.


Problem

Polkadot (including Kusama) is evolving from selling products to selling resilience as the technology’s main value proposition.

  • It offers Web3’s most progressive, experimental, and rapidly evolving on-chain governance stack.
  • An emerging ecosystem of DAOs/collectives/on-chain organisations is beginning to take form.

Rather than copying or competing with EVM-based projects, Polkadot has the opportunity to lean into its unique capabilities, doubling down on DAOs as the network’s equivalent of dApps.

Key Building Blocks:

  • OpenGov – Polkadot’s modular on-chain governance system
  • Kreivo – Generalised OpenGov for programmable, extensible DAOs
  • Decentralized Voices (DV) – An initiative for kickstarting collectives

Challenges

1. Lack of Resilience in Current DVs

Most depend on:

  • Multisigs
  • Proxies
  • Bots connected to centralized servers (e.g., Discord)

➡️ This contrasts sharply with Polkadot’s value proposition of resilience.

2. Misalignment of Strengths

Polkadot’s biggest advantage is building full-stack DAO infrastructure—but current DVs are not using it to its potential.


The Opportunity

Across four cohorts, DVs have matured and now require:

  • Identifiable decision makers
  • Configurable governance structures
  • Budget and team management tools

W3F can now:

  • Use the DV program to educate and create resilient, accessible, performant DAOs leveraging Kreivo pallets to offer a generalised version OpenGov.

Addressing Technical Limitations

Currently:

  • Kusama and Polkadot Asset Hubs have limited DAO functionality
  • Without action, existing governance/DAO experience and narrative advantages will be ceded to the broader market.

✅ Good news: Virto's Kreivo parachain has already built a modular DAO stack based on OpenGov:

  • Token-less, wallet-less onboarding
  • Escrow and pass-key integrations
  • KSM as fee token

Addressing Communication Challenges

  • W3F & Parity are consolidating functionality into Kusama/Polkadot Asset Hubs
  • But are resource-constrained + not active users of these tools
  • Kreivo and Kusama Asset Hub are separate networks, confusing users, despite Kreivo using KSM as its fee token.

➡️ We must unify talent, technology, and narrative to strengthen the ecosystem.


Vision: Real Network Political Parties

We propose a cultural and technical upgrade:

  • Evolve DVs into resilient, on-chain political parties
  • Represent the multidimensional spectrum of token holders (e.g., interest-based, region-based etc)

Requirements for DVs:

  • Must be real DAOs
  • Must have a manifesto tied to a part of the token holder spectrum
  • Must avoid relying on centralised tools (e.g., Discord bots, multisigs)
  • Must use new Kusama AH DAO infrastructure: governance tracks, budgets, teams, etc.

Technical Requirements

Propose runtime upgrade to Kusama Asset Hub, incorporating the following Kreivo-based Polkadot SDK & frame-contrib pallets:

  • 📜 pallet-referenda (additional instance) for DAO proposals
  • 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 pallet-nfts (pending feature) for DAO memberships
  • 🏛️ pallet-communities for DAO governance and membership
  • 🎛️ pallet-referenda-tracks for dynamic governance configurations

✅ Solves Kusama’s DAO tooling gap

✅ Fixes bounty system limitations (mandated accounts can’t hold DOT or pay stablecoins)

Soon: XCMv5 (~1 month) will allow Kusama DAOs to interact with Polkadot governance, unlocking full cross-chain coordination.


How It Could Work

  1. W3F outlines the vision: future DVs should evolve into on-chain political parties.

  2. Spectrum mapping: identify the types of representation desired by token holders (e.g., interest-based, geography-based).

  3. Set clear requirements:

    • Every DV = a DAO, regardless of size
    • Every DAO = clear manifesto
    • Every DAO = on-chain, resilient infrastructure
  4. Launch with upgraded Kusama AH runtime:

    • Support self-governance, strategy-setting, budget/team management
    • Position DVs as resilient political forces within the network

Phased Approach

  1. Runtime Upgrade:

    • Add Kreivo pallets to Kusama Asset Hub
  2. Research Phase:

    • W3F + ecosystem map token holder spectrum
  3. Initial DV Setup:

    • W3F defines a few example DAOs along ideological lines
    • Hand control to elected/appointed stewards
  4. Bootstrapping Leadership:

    • Determine leaders for new political parties
    • W3F retains membership (initially) for oversight
    • Training wheels removed over time

Comments (3)

3 months ago

On behalf of the Hungarian Polkadot DAO:

We have voted Abstain on this proposal due to several uncertainties. The statement that multisigs are “centralized” is confusing, multisigs are a fundamental decentralized coordination tools. This point raises concerns about the framing of decentralization in the proposal.

The initiative focuses on Kreivo but lacks anything concrete for the community to review or test. As the option to run smart contracts natively on Asset Hub comes close, we expected clearer integration plans or forward-looking use cases. Instead, the proposal remains too abstract, with no tangible milestones, cost estimates, or clear deliverables.

In its current form, even if its just a general wish for change we are missing concrete plans. We abstained due to the lack of clarity and internal disagreement on its merit.

You can view how the Hungarian Polkadot DAO evaluated this proposal on our public page [here].

3 months ago

Dear Proposer,

Thank you for your proposal. Our first vote on this proposal is NAY.

The Wish For Change track requires 60% quorum according to our voting policy v0.2, and any referendum in which the majority of members vote abstain receives an abstain vote. This proposal has received one aye and four nay votes from ten available members, with two members abstaining. Below is a summary of our members' comments:

Some members expressed concerns about the need for broader discussions and clarity regarding the proposal's implications, emphasizing the importance of thorough deliberation before making a decision. Others acknowledged the potential of the initiative as a starting point for valuable conversations but felt unprepared for its implementation. A few participants supported the use of ecosystem tools while advocating for extended discussions. Overall, there was a consensus on the necessity of careful consideration before proceeding with the proposal.

The full discussion can be found in our internal voting.

Please feel free to contact us through the links below for further discussion.

Kind regards,
Permanence DAO
Decentralized Voices Cohort IV Delegate

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