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#369 Proposal similarity
Dear community,
I want to introduce to you a tool for simplifying the proposal creation and application process in Kusama referendum v2.
Purpose: Solve a problem of deciding a founding amount, investigating interest of the community to your project, allow easy and fast access to the similar proposals.
You can test your proposal here: https://huggingface.co/spaces/DanichOne/Proposal_Similarity_Kusama
Future plans: extend to the Polkadot chain, add AI Summary as an alternative for viewing raw proposals, add filters for origin, enhance algorithm for useful data extraction from proposals, make approximation of the success possibility, add more statistics about proposals, convert KSM to USDT with an exchange rate on the time of submission.
Requested amount: 82 KSM
Expected period: 3-4 months
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Overall 50 % of users are feeling neutral. This project aims to simplify governance mechanics for new members and potentially expand with experienced user suggestions. Promotion will occur through Twitter, Discord, and Huggingface, targeting community engagement and tool development. The project is open-source, utilizing msmarco-bert-base-dot-v5, punkt, polkassembly api, and Python libraries for processing. Initially hosted on Huggingface due to its request handling capacity, the platform may shift to Vercel in the future.
Overall 50 % of users are feeling against it. The proposal received negative feedback due to several reasons, including lack of sufficient data for model training, absence of dedicated GitHub repository, no team support or branding strategy, and an unclear proposal draft. The reviewer suggested going back to the drawing board to formalize the project and make it a useful tool with proper planning.
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Interesting project, but it needs to be integrated to the interface. It's possible to start by hands posting a link and result as a comment from active community member. What do you think?
@Kasper_sky The promotion of this project is planned as posts in Twitter and Discord communities. It will help to collect feedback from users and correct future development track as well as introduce it to the wide audience. The entire project is oriented to the new members of the community to help them figure out the mechanics of the governance and make their decision simpler. But in the future it can grow by the suggestions from experienced users to make it helpful even for them. So, the main goal of the currently planned promotion is to make it easy to find info about this tool. And I hope it will lead to the foundation of an entire section dedicated to the development of tools for lowering the entry threshold in the governance infrastructure to make more people participate in the referendum.
This is a really clever idea! I'd like to know a few things:
- is this asking to compensate the work you've already put into the app or a request to fund the further development of this app?
- what's your tech stack?
- will this be open source? If so, where's the github repo?
- is it just you or do you have a team of devs?
- what domain do you intend to use to host this application? Huggingface doesn't seem on-brand...
- what kind of data do you intend to use to calculate probability of success? This seems like very hard problem.
I think you'll see more success if you spent a little more time drafting a proposal that includes these details while also clarifying the exact deliverables the eco can expect. I'm going to abstain for now with expectation of a more mature proposal draft. You can use this template to make sure you hit all the details.
Best,
Adam
@Adam_Clay_Steeber This is a request for compensation of already done work as well as for realization of future plans with mentioned above aims. After this stage I’m planning to have feedback from community members on hand and make a plan for further development. My tech stack is based on msmarco-bert-base-dot-v5 model for general data processing, punkt model for sentence analysis, polkassembly api for data collection and general purpose python libs for the rest of processing. Yes this is planned as an open source project for everyone to be able to clone it and run locally with your modifications and make merge requests. There is a git implemented in Huggingface so there is no dedicated Github repo. For now I’m alone but there is some possibility of expanding to team work. For the current stage of this project Huggingface is the optimal solution as it’s capable of handling several thousands requests per hour and easy to operate. Of course, when the project grows it will require more mature hosting. The probability calculation requires a lot of data to be processed. So for acceptable accuracy there should be at least 10 times more proposals in the database. And therefore realization of this function directly depends on community activity. And thank you for your feedback about proposal content, I'll take it into account next time
I've decided to vote NAY after this comment for the following reasons:
- You will almost certainly never get enough data to train any meaningful model. You said you need 10x more data? That'll literally take years at this rate.
- No dedicated github and you're alone. This project needs a team of at least 3 people and proper branding. Otherwise this will become a tool that no one uses and isn't supported.
- No mature proposal. I didn't ask for a more mature proposal next time. I wanted one this time. You need to formalize this project so it doesn't become aimless and obscure.
You clearly have the developing capabilities to make this work. but this project completely lacks cohesion. Please go back to the drawing board and ask yourself how this project can become a highly useful tool for years to come that people are aware of.
Nice idea. I like it, my full support!
I vote yes. There is only 82 KSM. As for me it would be nice to have a user friendly UI for such a tool and probably integration allowing one-click proposal submission. And make it open source. Go ahead!
Hi There,
We have switched our vote last moment to Nay Reading the comments from Daniel on Adam's questions and testing the huggingface site further.
— The website of huggingface is not a right place to compare this articles, maybe incorporating it in an own website dedicated to propals would be better and defintely a better prototype. The proposals just show in a list based on words, it's not useful at all at the moment.
— Also reading from the comments, that the preffered website will stay Huggingface, it's a decision for us to vote nay.
— Furthermore it would be great if the code was open-sourced from the beggining, so we can asses the work you have put it in.
If the above would change, we would tend more towards an Aye
@StakerSpace Hi, Well, as I’ve mentioned in my reply, the code is open sourced and you can find it on Huggingface https://huggingface.co/spaces/DanichOne/Proposal_Similarity_Kusama/tree/main. Basically the dedicated website right now doesn’t give any advantages over the Huggingface as it’s just a way of hosting and the actual interface is Gradio. I’ll try to host it on Vercel as it seems to be a good starting point but it will take some time to switch to another platform. It will be published in the community social networks as well as Huggingface alternative.
I consider this a "bigger tip" and won't be over critical. Nice tool.
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